{"id":1605,"date":"2014-03-30T19:06:40","date_gmt":"2014-03-31T02:06:40","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/gregbaker.ca\/blog\/?p=1605"},"modified":"2014-04-09T08:18:09","modified_gmt":"2014-04-09T15:18:09","slug":"hong-kong-vs-vatican-city","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/gregbaker.ca\/blog\/2014\/03\/30\/hong-kong-vs-vatican-city\/","title":{"rendered":"Hong Kong vs Vatican City"},"content":{"rendered":"

In CGP Grey<\/a>‘s excellent video How Many Countries Are There?<\/a>, he refers to Vatican City as “the least country-like country that’s still a country” and to Hong Kong as “the most country-like country that isn’t.”<\/p>\n

I have been rolling this around in my head for a while. He’s right about the basics: nobody would argue that at the moment, the Vatican isn’t a country, or that Hong Kong is. But how country-like are they, really?<\/p>\n

Certainly as I remember visiting both, it’s very clear that Hong Kong is a separate country from mainland China, but Vatican City is more of a notable tourist attraction in Rome. <\/p>\n

I made a table to highlight the issues. Is Vatican City really a part of Italy? Is Hong Kong really a part of China. Even though the answers are clearly “no” and “yes”, let’s look at the facts…<\/p>\n

[I’m using the term “surrounding nation” for brevity below to refer to China and Italy as the nations that physically encasulate Hong Kong and Vatican City, respectively.]<\/p>\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n
Criteria<\/th>\nHong Kong<\/th>\nVatican City<\/th>\nMore Country-like<\/th>\n<\/tr>\n<\/thead>\n
Citizens<\/td>\n7.2M<\/td>\n839<\/td>\nHong Kong<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
Land area<\/td>\n1104 km2<\/sup><\/td>\n0.44 km2<\/sup><\/td>\nHong Kong<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
Controls is own borders?<\/td>\nyes<\/a><\/td>\nno<\/a><\/td>\nHong Kong<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
Issues its own passports?<\/td>\nyes<\/td>\nyes<\/td>\ntie<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
Has its own currency?<\/td>\nyes<\/a><\/td>\nno<\/a><\/td>\nHong Kong<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
Different government than surrounding nation?<\/td>\nyes [1]<\/td>\nyes [2]<\/td>\ntie<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
Has an army?<\/td>\nno<\/a><\/td>\nsort of<\/a><\/td>\nVatican<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
Competes in the Olympics<\/td>\nyes<\/a><\/td>\nno<\/a><\/td>\nHong Kong<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
Surrounding nation citizens can visit without a visa?<\/td>\nno<\/a> [3]<\/td>\nyes<\/a><\/td>\nHong Kong<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n

[1] Elected Legislative Council<\/a> vs single-party socialist republic<\/a>.<\/p>\n

[2] Absolute non-hereditary monarchy<\/a> vs unitary parliamentary constitutional republic<\/a><\/p>\n

[3] Call it an “entry permit” if you want, but if people have to apply for it ahead of time, and then present it with their passport at border control for entry, then that’s a visa in my books.<\/p>\n

So there you go. Hong Kong is clearly an independant nation and the situation is much fuzzier for the Vatican.<\/p>\n

Except it isn’t. What defines a country is that other countries think it’s a country. Other countries think the Vatican is a county, and agree that Hong Kong isn’t.<\/p>\n

Edit 2014-04-09<\/strong> Apparently this blog post both takes inspiration from and predicts CGP Grey<\/a>.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

In CGP Grey‘s excellent video How Many Countries Are There?, he refers to Vatican City as “the least country-like country that’s still a country” and to Hong Kong as “the most country-like country that isn’t.” I have been rolling this around in my head for a while. He’s right about the basics: nobody would argue […]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[19],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-1605","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-china"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/gregbaker.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1605","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/gregbaker.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/gregbaker.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/gregbaker.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/gregbaker.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1605"}],"version-history":[{"count":28,"href":"http:\/\/gregbaker.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1605\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":1643,"href":"http:\/\/gregbaker.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1605\/revisions\/1643"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/gregbaker.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1605"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/gregbaker.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1605"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/gregbaker.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1605"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}